Comments on: On Freelance Writers Who Write For Free or Low Fees https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/ Work Less ~ Earn More ~ Live More Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:17:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: John Soares https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-11805 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:48:49 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-11805 In reply to Dustin.

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By: Dustin https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-11800 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:36:57 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-11800 Hey there would you mind stating which blog platform you’re working with?
I’m planning to start my own blog soon but I’m having
a hard time selecting between BlogEngine/Wordpress/B2evolution and Drupal.

The reason I ask is because your design seems different then most blogs and I’m
looking for something unique. P.S My apologies for getting
off-topic but I had to ask!

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By: My Favorite Productive Writers Posts of 2011 https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-11169 Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:05:48 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-11169 […] On Freelance Writers Who Write for Free or Low Fees. I wrote this in response to all the complaining I saw by content-mill writers and some Huff-Po bloggers. […]

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By: Philip Greene https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-5468 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:33:15 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-5468 These sites remind of me a time when I was working in a small community theatre herein a small town in Ohio. I was on staff as Technical Director and, being the only person there with any actual professional experience, I was constantly training volunteers in how to properly put on a technical performance. I also called in on a fairly regular basis to play small roles when there weren’t enough people who auditioned. Those of us who had worked in professional theatres or who knew the business for what it is would spend many nights laughing at the poor saps who came in, did a show, and were convinced that they were on the road to stardom — as if they would actually be “discovered” in a little 140-seat playhouse in a town that was considered more of a suburb than a city. Writing for exposure is no different than an actor being told that, if they work in films for an indeterminate number of years, they might get discovered and become the next big star. It’s poppycock opportunism perpetrated on the unsuspecting and gullible.

Anyone can bill themselves as a professional freelancer — there are no credentials, no standardized qualifications, and no real way of sizing up the abilities or knowledge of someone who claims to be an expert on their subject. People who are actually not professional writers and who want to be — or want to call themselves professional — see these opportunities and jump on them, thinking they will be the next great American writer to be discovered. The fact is, they won’t; at least not by writing for some fly-by-night website run by someone who is just looking to make money without actually doing a lot of work. If their work isn’t buried amongst the hundreds of thousands of similar articles on any given subject, it will more than likely stagnate due to a lack of support. Very few of these sites offer any sort of editorial support or critique so a person who writes crap is probably going to continue to write crap without anyone telling her or him that it’s crap.

I spent 12 years as a professional journalist and another eight years as a freelancer who was published on a fairly regular basis. I still write occasionally, but not as much as I used to because of the reduced market in jobs that actually pay what the job is worth. As you said, if I don’t want to write for $20 for 750 words, don’t do it. I don’t do it.

I don’t because I realize something these aspiring writers who do write for that price don’t realize: the actual writing of an article is only a small percentage of the work you do. A 3,000 word feature — for which I would be paid between $375-$450 — I would write for a print magazine would take me anywhere from one-to-two hours to actually type, proof and edit. Maybe a little more. On that basis, a paycheck of $20 looks acceptable — $10 per hour, at least.

But when you take into consideration that before I ever sat down at the keyboard, I would put in anywhere from 60-150 hours research (depending on the complexity of the subject) even that $450 would shrink to about $3.00 per hour. These hopefuls — if they actually do due diligence, or even know how to do it — research is a hell of a lot more than looking at a Wikipedia page — are actually working for about six cents per hour. One trip to the library will put them in negative figures.

I am a professional, as many who read this blog are. No one would expect an electrician or a plumber or a doctor or attorney to work for less than professional wages, so why should we? The skills needed to be a good writer — and a good journalist — are just a specialized and just a important as any other, so why should we settle for peanuts?

But the fact remains that the Internet is changing the shape of writing for a living. Many print magazines — those that are left these days — are getting the idea that they can pay cut rates as well by offering the same lame promise of exposure. What good is exposure if you’re not going to realize a reasonable return on it.

We need to find and support writer’s guilds that are going to assure the quality of the craft and those who profess to be good at it, and that will work to assure a reasonable pay for their members.

Let the wannabes work fall for the scams. But those of us who are actually professionals need to resist that “temptation” and insist on being paid a reasonable amount for high-quality work. There will be markets that will want the kind of quality we have to offer and who will pay for it. But we need to have an advocate who will help us fight for it.

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By: Boomergirl https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-5345 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:48:58 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-5345 I think a blog is a good selling feature especially for professional jjournalists. We work with successful bloggers AND with many professional journalists who have had long careers writing about travel, lifestyle, food and outdoors. A writer’s blog helps us determine whether or not a new media contact and his or her outlets are a good match in terms of our client’s target markets (demographics / geography). We can also refer our clients to writers’ sites especially if we want a client to consider hosting a specific writer on a travel press tour. Membership in a professional writer association is also important information. These associations generally have strict membership guidelines and codes of conduct in place which is important to the clients we represent.

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By: Barry Wheeler https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-4237 Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:42:24 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-4237 I’m wondering why people continue to write for free or for so little.

I’ve got no problem getting what I feel is great dollars for articles of about 400 – 500 words in length.

Is it just the niches I occupy?

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By: Fetching Friday – Resources Mashup & Best Wedding Video Ever https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-4234 Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:30:16 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-4234 […] Life isn’t fair – on freelance writers who write for free or low fees. […]

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By: John Soares https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-4179 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:49:13 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-4179 In reply to Eric Soares.

Agreed Eric. Complete and honest communication on both sides is necessary.

And as a side note, people need to be sure that if they’re promised a link to their website as part of a deal, that it’s a DoFollow link.

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By: Eric Soares https://productivewriters.com/2011/08/22/freelance-writers-bloggers-free-content-blog-posts/#comment-4108 Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:19:14 +0000 http://productivewriters.com/?p=2117#comment-4108 I would have no compunction writing for free or for big bucks, as long as all parties understand what the deal is and no one plays tricks.

What I don’t like is when someone says one thing and does another. Usually, even a gratis guest column has strings, or at least some reward for the writer. All parties need to be up-front about this. As long as expectations are communicated and met, no problemo.

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